Author Topic: None too serious list (Read 1213 times)

jah160383 · « **on:** May 24, 2008, 11:09:21 AM »

Im taking this list to a local tourny, I no i have no real hope of winning because there are a lot of power gamers going so i thought id take a list to annoy people, here it is

Skrag
bruiser- giant breaker, gw, ha ,wyrdstone, necklace, luck gnoblar
butcher- hell heart
butcher- bangstick, scroll

3 bulls- extra hand weapon
24 gnoblar fighters
7 gorgers
2 slave giant

I think thats right i havent got my book with me for exact points but thats the general list

thoughts, comments

just-josh · « **Reply #1 on:** May 24, 2008, 11:34:45 AM »

I am glad that there is someone else out there who runs a "fun" list

Good on ya!

Well, I personally think you're probably gonna get smashed from pillar to post

But, there is a slim chance, if you run this army well, that you could win

The key, is using Skrag's special rules to the optimum

Make sure he is in the thick of the fighting, and make sure that as the kill count goes up, you maximise the bonuses he grants

I'd also run one slave giant down each flank, and push the rest of your army down the centre of the table

I think you should run the butcher w/ bangstick and scroll in with the 3 bulls.

That's about it

JJ

Bob the Butcher · « **Reply #2 on:** May 24, 2008, 08:50:37 PM »

It will certainly be fun especially rolling 7 dice for the gorgers to come on

I love the Giants should be fun to play, the Skrag & the giants will be vulnerable to missiles though so keep them hidden until the gorgers do their Stuff.

jah160383 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 26, 2008, 11:37:22 AM »

yeah i dont really expect to win but itll be a laugh i no there will be at least two gunlines there so ill feel the pain there but they will feel the pain of my gorgers.

Also this is my first list without my usual 4 units of iron guts so itll be new tactically too

arisen · « **Reply #4 on:** May 26, 2008, 02:33:37 PM »

you only have 2 core units, so the list is illegal

just-josh · « **Reply #5 on:** May 26, 2008, 02:37:49 PM »

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you only have 2 core units, so the list is illegal

And...? That depends on what size force he is running! If it is 2000 points or below, he only needs a minimum of two core choices

JJ

arisen · « **Reply #6 on:** May 26, 2008, 02:40:16 PM »

it's obvious that it's 2000pts (otherwise no skrag or 2 slavegiants), and then you need 3 core choices

jah160383 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2008, 11:02:32 PM »

arisen is right its my fault, my army also has a unit of 8 trapper as well i forgot to put it in.

arisen · « **Reply #8 on:** May 27, 2008, 12:07:45 AM »

but trappers don't count towards minimum core requirements

Heaven Cookie · « **Reply #9 on:** May 27, 2008, 08:13:01 AM »

Gnoblars don't count as well too.........I think.

So basically you need two other bull units, so you have to take away 210 pts a least :/

Nice list though, especially the giants. It's however a bit peculiar to have three butchers and only one unit of ogres

just-josh · « **Reply #10 on:** May 27, 2008, 02:23:53 PM »

Quote from: arisen on May 26, 2008, 02:40:16 PM

it's obvious that it's 2000pts (otherwise no skrag or 2 slavegiants), and then you need 3 core choices

Why can't you have Skrag? :S I thought you can have one Lord choice in 2000 points... In which case, Skrag can be fielded, as IIRC he only takes up one Lord choice

JJ

Mercules · « **Reply #11 on:** May 27, 2008, 02:59:42 PM »

But you couldn't have him unitl 2k at which point you would need three Core choices. He could add a unit of Bulls and be covered. Gnoblar Fighters count for Min-Core, but Trappers do not. So bare minimum at 2k is 2 naked Bulls units and a unit of GnFighters.

just-josh · « **Reply #12 on:** May 27, 2008, 05:25:28 PM »

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But you couldn't have him unitl 2k

Why??? IIRC, it doesn't say that in his army book entry

JJ

Mercules · « **Reply #13 on:** May 27, 2008, 05:56:17 PM »

He is a Lord. At what point break can you take a Lord character?

just-josh · « **Reply #14 on:** May 27, 2008, 05:59:26 PM »

You can take 1 Lord choice at 2,000 points

JJ

Mercules · « **Reply #15 on:** May 27, 2008, 07:44:10 PM »

JJ... You need to reread the comments.

Especially YOURS.

Someone stated it was an illegal list because of only having 2 core. You said depends on point level it could be less than 2k. We mentioned Skrag. You said, and? We did the Lord choice, must be 2k list. You stated you can take a Lord at 2k.

Um yes, but either he needs more core or less Skrag. it's either 2k+ or not.

just-josh · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2008, 08:54:29 AM »

Oh

Sorry guys

I got totally confused in the end

lol! Sorry guys

You're right

JJ

Sterling · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2008, 05:32:06 PM »

what's the bruiser doing in there? did he get lost on his way to the maw or something? he's not your BSB, he's not carrying a tenderizer... and you put a WSN & Giantbreaker on him? why? Do you think someone will shoot him when there are 2 giants, Scrag and probably gorgers on the board? Do you anticipate needing S9 (since if you really need S8, you can bullgorge him)?

There are 2 ways to go with a bruiser in your army:
1) I would give him a tenderizer and let him loose on any unit with a champion or someone to challenge. higher priority targets should keep him from being shot at, so don't overspend on protecting him.
2) make him a BSB with Bullgut. If he runs into the flank of almost any ranked up CR-dependant unit, he will have a better-than-average chance to break it (banner + flank charge (for you) = outnumber + banner (for him) so it's all dependant on wounds, and I will bet the bruiser will out-wound any RnF unit there is... it is fully capable of rolling a flank on his own), and he is capable of getting to a flank because the giants and scrag are drawing all the fire.

I just don't see including a bruiser outside of these 2 set ups. my suggestion would actually be to drop him completely for an irongut unit.

jah160383 · « **Reply #18 on:** Jun 04, 2008, 10:52:30 AM »

Righty this is my revised list

Skragg
bucher hellheart
bucher bangstick
3 bulls xhw
3 ironguts banner
24 gnoblar fighters
6 gorger
2 giant

think that works out at about 2000 points and is now legal

Manowar · « **Reply #19 on:** Jun 04, 2008, 11:17:57 AM »

I'm just wondering who you are going to cast all that Gut Magic on. You only have 2 Ogre units, and the casting value will get high very quickly if you spam Bonecruncher and Braingobbler.

Mercules · « **Reply #20 on:** Jun 04, 2008, 12:38:50 PM »

I count 5 ogre units. Skrag, 2 Butchers, Bulls, and Ironguts. Besides, your opponent is going to dispel your first Braingobbler and Bonecruncher.

Manowar · « **Reply #21 on:** Jun 04, 2008, 01:26:31 PM »

Right, but I don't know how often he will want to run his Butchers solo and buff them.

Mercules · « **Reply #22 on:** Jun 04, 2008, 01:41:42 PM »

It all depends on what army you are facing. Dwarves with lots of Handguns you might want them in the units. Hordes or Beasts of Chaos you might want them alone.

I kinda agree with you, I like to have plenty of units to cast my buffs on, but I had to play Devil's Advocate there. Skrag will most definately run alone, since he can be picked out while in a unit anyway. So at bare minimum he will have 3 units to cast on.

jah160383 · « **Reply #23 on:** Jun 04, 2008, 04:30:29 PM »

can i gast on gorgers..... i never have but i would assume i can

to be honest im going to get cannoned to death anyway i cannot see skrag getting past turn two but then they will have to deal with 6 gorgers and 2 giants ha ha should be fun

Mercules · « **Reply #24 on:** Jun 04, 2008, 05:18:45 PM »

You can not cast on Gorgers. The list of models that count as "ogres" for the purpose of Gut Magic is on page 16 and Gorgers is not part of that list. Neither is Hunter but he is included as being a viable target for Gut Magic under the Gut Magic rules although his Sabertusks remain unaffected. You may not use Gut Magic on Yhetees or Rhinox Riders either as they are also not on that list.