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DonTheDime

The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« on: Sep 06, 2006, 08:22:44 PM »


Beginnings

I started building an Ogre Army back in November 2005 when my brother convinced me to play Warhammer Fantasy.  I started with the army box, and have added to it since then.  Ideas regarding the background and fluff of my army have finally started to come together, partly as a result of joining this forum back in July.

From the beginning I have wanted to incorporate halflings in my ogre army, though not necessarily on a permanent or inflexible basis.  I also wanted to incorporate the idea of female ogres into the army, originally with the idea of just having female Butchers, and the occasional female maneater.  Vichor's posts on this forum convinced me to build on that idea, though not necessarily to same extent as he did (i.e. an all female ogre force).  I have been thinking of a more balanced army where you are equally likely to find a male or female ogre among the core troops, with units likely to be all male, all female, or perhaps mixed, depending on the circumstances.

Furthermore, I am more interested in a flexible army that can be adapted, within reason, to the circumstances it finds itself in, while still being consistent to the theme & background of my army.

Background

The Cooksnatcher tribe was originally part of the Feastmaster tribe, well known for their "adoption" of halflings to serve them.  The Tyrant of the new Cooksnatcher tribe, Thazreg the Hazardous, was the son of one of the Feastmaster Tyrant's head Bruisers.  Partly due to ambitions of returning strong enough to contend for the tyrantship and partly a result of his innate ogre restlessness, Thazreg began his career as a mercenary among the nations of the Old World.  During his travels, he came to appreciate the variety of foods enjoyed in these nations, even if they were not always of the same quality as the food prepared by the halfling cooks adopted by his native tribe.  He also learned some of the less direct tactics of warfare, such as the use of kidnapping and ransom to either incite direct conflict or to extort desired payment or resources.  It was also during his travels that he was reunited with his longtime friend and lover Targani Feastmaster the Curious.

Targani the Curious was the eldest daughter of the Slaughtermaster Largegut Feastmaster of the Feastmaster tribe.  She learned the arts and skills of the Butchers from her father and acquired a great deal of additional experience and skill in preparing feasts by observing and later supervising the tribe's halfling cooks.  During this extensive interaction with the halflings, Targani was struck by a rather new and radical concept.  She knew the legends of the ogres: where they came from, what happened at the coming of the Maw, the Great Migration and their restless history since that time.  She knew the great restlessness, the gnawing hunger, that every ogre since the coming of the Maw experienced on a daily basis.  She also believed the legend that the ogres had lived in a paradise before the coming of the Maw, living in a land of plenty where an ogre could eat and be satisified, with no worries and no hunger.  She recognized that in some small way, the gnawing hunger was not as great after eating the foods prepared by the halflings.  This led her to the rather startling conclusion that perhaps there was a special way to prepare food, and perhaps a special kind of food, that would satisfy the ogres' gnawing hunger and eliminate it, thereby allowing the ogres to unite under a common banner and rebuild their former paradise.  Inspired by this grand vision, she left the tribe and began traveling the world, seeking out new and different foods and the methods of preparing them, hoping to find that special combination that would satisfy the gnawing hunger in her belly, and thereby obtain the key to uniting the ogre race and leading them back to paradise....

DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #1 on: Sep 26, 2006, 03:41:10 AM »
Background (continued):

It did not take long for this ambitious pair to make plans to raise a new Ogre tribe that would seek out the cure for the Maw-inspired Ogre hunger and lead the Ogre race to a new age and a return of their former paradise.  Together, Thazreg the Hazardous and Targani the Curious, would return to their kin of the Feastmaster tribe to persuade them, by force if necessary, to unite in pursuing their goals....

Current State of Army:

I have finally had the time to upload some pictures of my army.  So far only my Yhetees are completed, but I thought I would go ahead and show what I have done so far.


My army (without Yhetee unit) in various stages of painting.


Close up of my Bruiser.  I have not decided yet whether to make him the Tyrant Thazreg the Hazardous, or to get the Tyrant model and convert him.


Front view of eight Ogre Bulls, including Full Command.  These are almost finished, I still want to add the iconography of the Cooksnatcher Tribe to their skin.


Rear view of the Bulls.


Side view of the Bulls.


Another front view of the Bulls, this time with the unfinished standard attached.  I decided to make my standards 'portable' so that I could switch standards to represent different banners and to allow the option of having a look-out gnoblar.  It will also simplify representing captured banners.


Hunter, Blarzeg Cooksnatcher the Blunt, with his two Sabretusks.  I am debating whether to add stripes to the Tusks, and if so, what color.


Front view of four Ironguts with Full Command.  Similar situation as the Bull standard bearer.


Yhetee unit of three.  Will probably redo their bases once I do the bases for the rest of the army.

I also have three Leadbelchers and one more Irongut that I have assembled recently but not yet undercoated.  I also have two Gorgers assembled, three Maneaters (the Paymaster, Female, and Pirate Maneaters) assembled, and am currently converting a Butcher to be Targani Feastmaster Cooksnatcher the Curious.  Also, about three more Leadbelchers, four Ironguts and seven Bulls that I am converting/assembling to be female.  I also have about sixty or so Gnoblars  assembled, with about half undercoated and in the early painting stages.

Ghworg

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #2 on: Sep 26, 2006, 07:20:45 PM »
The skin on the Ogres is painted a little clumsily. However, I do like the fluff and what you have done with the Yhetee fur. Looks really nice.
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DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #3 on: Sep 27, 2006, 02:31:30 PM »
The skin on the Ogres is painted a little clumsily. However, I do like the fluff and what you have done with the Yhetee fur. Looks really nice.

Thanks for the comments.  The only Ogres whose skins are closest to final are the Bulls.  I still plan to add some war paint displaying the tribe's symbols and probably touch up here and there.  The skins of the Bruiser and Ironguts are still in a raw stage.  I used a drybushing technique to apply the upper layers of the skin as part of the look I was aiming towards was more "rough and dirty" than smooth and clean, since Ogres usually don't bathe on a regular basis.  However, I may try a more direct application of the different layers in the future.

My plan is to continue painting once I finish assembling the models that I currently have in the works.  Speaking of which, I am almost finished with that task.  After I have finished, I will take pictures before I undercoat them, and post a few.

DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #4 on: Sep 28, 2006, 07:40:54 AM »
I finished my female Irongut conversions tonight and made progress with the Bull and Leadbelcher conversions, as well as the Butcher.

Here are some pictures of the Ironguts:


All six Irongut conversions lined up: full command and three rank and file.  Front view.


Rear view.


Side view.


Closeup of the command models.  Front view.


Rear view.


Better angle on champion and standard bearer.


Closeup of rank and file models.  Front view.


Rear view.


Better angle.

Mountainfist

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #5 on: Sep 28, 2006, 08:58:13 PM »
Those female ogres sure are ugly! But in a good way, very original.
The green stuffed hair and big boobs make it very obvious, nicely done.

I can imagine female ogres' faces to look like their man counterparts.
Cool conversions!  :P
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It only means more tender thinling meat to fill our ever hungry stomaches..."

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DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #6 on: Sep 28, 2006, 10:40:25 PM »
Those female ogres sure are ugly! But in a good way, very original.
The green stuffed hair and big boobs make it very obvious, nicely done.

I can imagine female ogres' faces to look like their man counterparts.
Cool conversions!  :P

Thanks for the comments!  Considering this is my first conversion project, I figured it would be easier to use the existing ogre heads and remove the facial hair.  That way I did not have to attempt to sculpt faces on my first conversion attempts.  I also thought that modifying existing heads would make them appear more 'natural' among the male ogres, and allow all of the ogres in my army to have a consistent look to them.

My aim is to finish the Bull and Leadbelcher conversions this evening, and post pictures of them as well.

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Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #7 on: Sep 29, 2006, 06:42:07 AM »
Those female ironguts made me a fan.
Keep those pics coming.
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DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #8 on: Sep 29, 2006, 09:56:47 AM »
I was able to finish the Bull and Leadbelcher conversions.  I also finished the Butcher conversion.

Here are the Bull conversions:


Front view of the five converted Bulls.


Rear view.


Another front view, but from a different angle.

Here are the Leadbelcher conversions:


Front view of the three converted Leadbelchers, with loaded cannons.


Another front view, but with unloaded cannons.  This is to help me keep track of whether they have fired or not.


Rear view.

Here is the converted Butcher:


Front view.


Side view.


Rear view.


Another rear view.


Side view.


Another front view.

Jestor

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #9 on: Sep 29, 2006, 03:40:48 PM »
I love the gnoblar strapped onto the back end... BRILLIANT!  Love the other conversions as well.
This thread is worthless without pictures :)

Ghworg

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #10 on: Sep 29, 2006, 06:28:20 PM »
Love the conversions, however, aren't the boobs on the Butcher a bit too big?
Otherwise brilliant. I especially like the hair.
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Mawgrim

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #11 on: Sep 29, 2006, 07:57:06 PM »
I think the unconverted Ironguts skin looks better then the finised one on the Bulls.
Good work on the conversions ^^.
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DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #12 on: Sep 29, 2006, 10:42:43 PM »
Thanks for all the comments!  Being the first time I have used Green Stuff and done conversions, I know I definitely learned a lot in the process!  It was actually quite fun, and in some ways I am sad that I don't have any more conversions in the works.  I am going to paint what I have before doing anything else.

Last night while taking pictures of the conversions, I decided to go ahead and lay out the entire army (except the Gnoblars - I was too tired to bother bringing out the sixty-plus models I have . . . maybe later when I make progress in painting them) and take some pictures.


Front view of the entire army (except Gnoblars, of course) as I currently have them.


Another view of the entire army.


A view from another angle.


Another view of half the army.


A view of the other half.


A closer view of the Leadbelchers and Maneaters.


A closer view of the Bulls and some of the characters (Butchers and Hunter with Sabretusks).


A closer view of the Bruiser, Butchers (the two on the sides for friendly non-tournament play), and the Gorgers.


A closer view of the Ironguts and Yhetees.


A close up of the Maneaters.


A close up of the Yhetees.


A closer view of the Gorgers.

I'll post more pictures as the painting progresses.


DonTheDime

November Update
« Reply #13 on: Nov 27, 2006, 07:26:25 PM »
It has taken me a while to take pictures of my progress, as I have had a busy schedule and only recently had the opportunity for a "photo opp" of my developing army.

I did get an addition to my army since the last post: a slave giant.  Below are pictures of the giant in a 'draft assembly' stage.  I am thinking of adding a few more accessories, particularly the 'halfling grab bag', but don't want to overload the model too much.

Here is a front view:


A side view:


Another side:


And a rear view:



Here is a group shot of the entire army in their current state:


I don't have time now to post links to the pictures of the painting progress (mostly the Ironguts (male and female), Bulls (female), and Leadbelchers (male and female)) since last time, but I will later as soon as I get more time to do so.

Corai

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #14 on: Nov 27, 2006, 07:34:44 PM »
The slave giant looks really good. My first impressin was that the chain was too big for him and looked a little out of scale, but now i think it looks like some good, heavy duty chain. The lengths coming off his heels is a nice touch too.

Your army is very well done!

Thanks
Corai

DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #15 on: Nov 27, 2006, 09:33:58 PM »
Thank you!  I found the chain at a local craft store and thought it looked appropriate as "heavy duty chain".

Here are the Leadbelchers in their current state of painting (primarily base coats):

Front View (Males):


Rear View (Males):



Front View (Females):


Rear View (Females):

DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #16 on: Nov 28, 2006, 12:51:38 AM »
Here are the other pictures:

Ironguts (Male) front view:


Ironguts (Male) side view:


Ironguts (Male) side view:


Ironguts (Male) rear view:



Ironguts (Female) front view:


Ironguts (Female) side view:


Ironguts (Female) side view:


Ironguts (Female) rear view:



Bulls (Female) front view:


Bulls (Female) side view:


Bulls (Female) side view:


Bulls (Female) rear view:



Oni the Cruel

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #17 on: Nov 28, 2006, 01:22:02 AM »
Love the females...nice conversions Don.

Looking forward to seeing more when its finished.

Oni

DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #18 on: Sep 10, 2007, 03:40:08 PM »
It has been a while since I last updated this Gnoblog.  I have mostly been very busy in real life, including moving from an apartment into a house.  Most of my free time for Warhammer since then has been used up in working on additions to my brother's Dwarf Army.  He has been in Brazil since December 2005 working as a missionary.  A mutual friend gave him the recent Dwarf Army Box (when the Dwarfs were recently updated) and I have been working on assembling and painting them for him as a surprise gift when he returns this December.  At the moment, I have them assembled and have started painting them, but I doubt I can get them all finished before he comes home.

As a break from painting Dwarfs, I decided to return to my Ogres and continue work on them.  I took some pictures of the Bull, Irongut, and Leadbelcher Units I have been working on and will post them shortly.  They are still WIP, as I want to add more details.  I still have not done anything to the bases, as I am still debating what to do.  The materials I have on hand are limited to Green Stuff, Snow Flock, Modeling Gravel, and Paint.  I am open to suggestions.

I finally had a chance to try out painting the symbology I came up with for the Cooksnatcher Tribe.  I added them to a standard banner as shown below.  The primary symbol for the tribe is the one within the maw circle on the banner (the fist clutching the cook).  An alternate is the one in the bottom left on the banner, which suggests the connection in the fluff to the Feastmaster tribe (the cook sitting in the cauldron).



I am still debating how to add the symbols to the Ogres themselves.  There is the obvious body paint, as well as adding them to gut plates and perhaps the flat areas of the ironfists (which many of them have).  I have not decided on a color either, other than the black I used on the banner.  I am leaning towards using red or perhaps a purple for body paint or for adding the symbols to the armor.  If you have any suggestions, feel free to let me know, as I am still unsure what to do.

Updated pictures showing the progress I have made will follow shortly.  They are already uploaded at Flickr, it will just take some time to copy/paste the urls.

DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #19 on: Sep 10, 2007, 04:58:54 PM »
Here are a couple shots of the models I have been painting, as a group:






Here are my Bull command models showing the standard with the Cooksnatcher tribe symbology. Very little changed with the male Bulls, other than the standard.  The banner is removable, which is why you will see it again with the Female Ironguts unit.



Here are the Female Ironguts in their current stage of painting:

Front view


Side view


Another Side view


Rear view



Here are the Female Leadbelchers in their current stage of painting:

Front view


Side view


Another Side view


Rear view



Here are the Female Bulls in their current stage of painting:

Front view


Side view


Another Side view


Rear view



Here are the Male Ironguts in their current stage of painting:

Front view


Side view


Another Side view


Rear view



Here are the Male Leadbelchers in their current stage of painting:

Front view


Side view


Another Side view


Rear view


Reg06

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #20 on: Sep 10, 2007, 06:15:39 PM »
Good stuff. Your female ironguts are really well converted.
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DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #21 on: Sep 12, 2007, 12:03:50 PM »
Good stuff. Your female ironguts are really well converted.

Thank you, Reg06!  The female ironguts conversions benefitted from the ready access to extra Dwarf shields.

I continued painting more detail the other night and focused on the female Bull models.  The primary updates are the hair and faces.  I added some highlights to the hair and began painting the details on their faces.  I will probably darken the color of their eyes, or at least add a pupil, as their are too light in the pictures.  The pinkish color (Dwarf flesh) around the eyes and on the lips is the foundation color that I used for the male Bulls when I did their faces over a year ago.  At a minimum, my plan is to paint eyebrows and use washes to add shade to the eyes and the mouths.

I am debating on how much "make-up" to give them.  My initial thoughts are to be a miniimalist with it and perhaps just add a slight touch of color to the cheeks, add a little color to the lips, and perhaps darken the skin around the eyes a little bit.  The background I am developing for the tribe suggests close ties with halflings (of which the tribe has "snatched" a fair number) and some ties to the Dwarfs, in addition to some contact with the other races where they have "snatched" cooks.  So, this tribe probably has more exposure to "civilisation" than other tribes back in the Mountains of Mourn.   So, it is plausible that the female Ogres of my tribe have assimilated some of the manners and customs of their counterparts in other races.  I am just not sure how far they would go.

I suppose the next step would be to test different variations of "make-up" on these models and then post pictures to get some feedback from the community.  Hopefully before the end of the week I will be able to do so and post the pictures.  For now, here are the Female Bulls in their current stage of painting:

Front view (the one on the left is the same as the one on the right in the next picture)


Front view (the one on the right is the same as the one on the left in the previous picture)


Rear view (the one on the right is the same as the one on the left in the next picture)


Rear view (the one on the left is the same as the one on the right in the previous picture)

DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #22 on: Sep 14, 2007, 05:37:33 AM »
I proceeded with painting the base details of the faces of the remaining models (Bulls, Ironguts and Leadbelchers), including adding eyebrows similar to the male Bull models I had painted earlier.  The next step will be testing out "make-up" options for the female ogres.  Also, I still plan on applying a wash or two to add appropriate shade in the recesses of the face of all the ogres.

Here are the ogres as they stand now, the primary differences being the facial details:

Front view of three female Bull models:



Front view of two more female Bull models:



Front view of three female Irongut models:



Front view of three more female Irongut models:



Front view of three female Leadbelcher models:



Front view of three male Irongut models:



Front view of two more male Irongut models:



Front view of three male Leadbelcher models:



DonTheDime

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #23 on: Sep 19, 2007, 05:38:10 AM »
I have made some progress in the more final details for the ogres, and will include pictures of one of the female bulls showing what I have done.  I painted the tribe symbols on the gut plate and the ironfist, as well as added a symbol to each shoulder (the symbol for feast or eating on the right shoulder, and the maw symbol on the left shoulder).  I also added a little more color to the lips, and added a wash to the skin to give it a more natural appearance.  I may go back and add some highlights back to the skin.  Another thing I did was add a mixed wash of red ink and flesh wash to the club, ironfist, and gut plate to suggest recent use.

Front view of female Bull model:



Side view:



Rear view:



Another side view:



Front close-up of gut plate and face:



Front close-up of war paint and ironfist:



Let me know what you think.  I have not done this to the others just yet, as I only had time to do one.  I feel like I am almost done with this model, having only minor touch ups, basing, and then sealing left.  Once I do this for the other Bulls, Ironguts, and Leadbelchers I have started, then I plan to continue on to the Maneaters, Characters, and Gorgers, before finally painting the gnoblars and halflings.

Reg06

Re: The Cooksnatcher Tribe
« Reply #24 on: Sep 19, 2007, 06:32:13 AM »
Good job. Watching this gnoblog is cool, because you record every step in the painting process and one can really see the progress. The warpaint is well done, very steady, clean work there. If anything needs to be done, it's some highlights on the boots, other than that it's just minor stuff.
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