Author Topic: Cathayan Jet + Butcher = Good Thing? (Read 806 times)

Lorg Wallcrusher · « **on:** Apr 12, 2006, 12:43:36 AM »

Well, here's another question from your's truely. I've been thinking about dropping a piece of Cathayan Jet on my Butcher. Why? Well, a 3+ ward save on all magical wounds (other then high and dark) is something to contend with, and in a tournament scene, it would fare pretty well. I think the Jet is kind of a waste on a brusier or a Tyrant, but on a butcher, who is on his own a lot of the time, I think it would save everyone a lot of headaches. Especially those of us who only run 1 butcher. BUT, is it worth the (...consults book...) 30 points to give it to the butcher? Another thing I've been thinking of trying on the Butcher is the Skullplucker.
Killing Blow is great, especially on a model that no one expects it on.
Every Ogre player I know (4 others in my immediate area) ALWAYS use the old Bloodcleaver/Bangstick combo. It's getting a little old.
I've been thinking about using the Skullmantle and the Skullplucker (they kinda go together), but I'm not quite sute it'll work the way I want.
Maybe it'll be more effective on a Slaughtermaster?

taladryel · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 12, 2006, 02:32:26 AM »

Maybe I've not played the right kind of tournament players, but few would waste magic (which tends to be S3/S4, with a couple of exceptions) to try and kill a T5 W4 model (not when the same spell can possibly Panic or at least weaken units of T4 W3 models).

On top of that, I can't picture a competent player casting the Foot of Gork on the Butcher at the top of the game, seeing the Cathayan Jet in action, and then casting the Foot on the Butcher _again_. Well, a competent player who's not thoroughly drunk, at any rate.

Rather than the Skullplucker I'd be tempted to give the Butcher a Sword of Might. Or a Siegebreaker. Or something. Giving KB to a 3-attack WS3 model is a bit...err...suboptimal? [KB works when you can generate a lot of hits per round, basically.]

Meh. Experiment, see what happens. If you're running a Slaughtermaster, consider surprising someone by sticking him with the Thundermace.

Yaroslav the Vast · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 12, 2006, 02:54:31 PM »

Personally I don't particularly like the idea of magic weapons on butchers, just because they only have 3 attacks, vs a bruiser or tyrant. It is fairly easy to whiff 3 attacks, plus butcher's magic item slots are so much better utilised with scrolls and such. If I do take a magic weapon, it is the blood cleaver.

Lorg Wallcrusher · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 12, 2006, 05:41:11 PM »

Wel, that's something to think about. I still might use the Skrag model as my tyrant though... he's something different, and I can use that meat-pot for my converted butcher. I wish I could get a digi-cam... I have some conversions that you'd all like.

Garsnig · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 12, 2006, 08:46:26 PM »

I don't have access to my book right now, but butcher spells allow no save whatsoever when inflicted upon the butcher right? So you can't use the Cathayan Jet for those wounds right?

taladryel · « **Reply #5 on:** Apr 13, 2006, 03:53:47 AM »

Nope. The book specifically says you can't. Ditto for High and Dark Magic (people use Dark Magic???...).

Genghis Khan · « **Reply #6 on:** Apr 13, 2006, 05:30:36 AM »

I must agree with Yaroslav the Vast, giving the butcher a weapon is not the best solution. If I have 2 butchers, I use 2 dispel, bangstick and skullmantle or halfling cookbook. We all know the magic phase can cause alot of damage. Having dispel scrolls can help as long as he's not rolling double 6's all the time.

We (the club) are having a 3000 pts this friday and I will field a slaughtermaster and 2 butchers for sure. Giving them the magic items, hellheart, 3 dispel scrolls, bangstick and skullmantle. We are talking about 3 characters that comes up to about 630pts with items which is good.