Author Topic: Irongut Work in Progress *Update (Read 1827 times)

Nilax · « **on:** Apr 05, 2006, 06:39:11 AM »

Hello again,

I decided to make my skaven-themed ogre army based around 'real' ogres, to keep the flair of the race, with skavenized mutants fulfilling the special auxilliary roles. For the fluff, my ogres' mountain stronghold is home to rich deposits of warpstone. My ogres mine (or rather, have their slaves mine) the stone, and trade it to the skaven of Hell Pit (having little use for it themselves) in exchange for equipment, slaves, and 'upgrades' to some of their bretheren.

I want the 'normal' ogres to still reflect their years of trade with the Skaven:

Please tell me what you think and any suggestions you might have for the rest of the army.

Thanks for looking

vichor · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 05, 2006, 07:56:42 AM »

I love armies with a strong theme. Yours certainly has that... very cool.
I think the bashed in shield to fit around the shoulder is great.
show us a pic when painted.

Wiedzmin · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 05, 2006, 11:19:30 AM »

Bretonnia shiled is good.
And the "socks" are cool!

Kyte · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 05, 2006, 12:28:44 PM »

Very good! I cant whait to see the tyrant of the Lazhags tribe.

LordSaradain · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 05, 2006, 03:08:28 PM »

Not bad but prehaps he has got abit too many bitz for my taste. I'd lose the barrel as it does nothimg for your theme and its in the way.

Nilax · « **Reply #5 on:** Apr 05, 2006, 04:03:59 PM »

^ That might be more an issue of the picture angle. In the pic it looks like the skaven shield is making contact with the barrel, thus blocking his ability to swing. In reality there is just over a centimeter of open space there, so it looks like he could have the full range of motion with his weapon.

As far as bits, I guess its a stylistic thing but I picture Ironguts in particular as hoarding as many things as they can, having first pick over most other ogres, so I'm trying to bulk them out with bits.

namfoodle · « **Reply #6 on:** Apr 05, 2006, 10:01:38 PM »

Is it just me or does anyone else find that that plague monk banner bit that was used looks like a golf ball. I like the model, he sure is decked out.

borgusbonecruncher · « **Reply #7 on:** Apr 06, 2006, 11:50:24 AM »

The manager of my local Gw told me to do a skaven themed army a while back and i said no to the idea straight away. i wish i hadnt now nice work

Richie

freelancer · « **Reply #8 on:** Apr 06, 2006, 04:37:05 PM »

Nice work, where do you get chains like that?

ouroboris · « **Reply #9 on:** Apr 07, 2006, 10:29:22 PM »

nice work again-

chains- probably from a jewelery store or something like that. craft/hobby shop where old ladies buy quilting supplies and the like.

@namfoodle- at least he didnt hang the bit on the front of the model, below the belt =)

@nilax- i like that idea too , in my case i envisioned my 1st ironguts unit as them whats carries the meats, and my 2nd will probably have lots of beer. For my khemri kuthroats- each unit will be carrying a different good to recreate a merchant train sort of effect. spices just came to mind (though maybe thats not very ogrish?)

do you have any weird plans for a scraplauncher? maybe pulled by a giant rat?

Jeremy · « **Reply #10 on:** Apr 07, 2006, 11:06:54 PM »

There's too much stuff. Too much stuff and not enough ogre.

Alfginnar · « **Reply #11 on:** Apr 08, 2006, 08:26:53 AM »

I like him.

Not too much stuff if you ask me, although I do think you could have left out the shield on his right (from his point of view) elbow.

Cheers, Meatfist

Nilax · « **Reply #12 on:** Apr 11, 2006, 03:14:59 PM »

@Freelancer: Yes as ouroboris said it's jeweler's chain, made for threading necklaces. I can't get enough of the stuff, and it comes in all styles and sizes.

@Ouroboris: I've got a few crazy ideas for a scraplauncher...some involving doomwheel bits and 'The Thing from the Woods' from Mordheim

but I haven't confirmed any with myself yet.

@Everyone-thanks again for the comments.

Here is the next step in the process: I just dipped him and thought I'd put up a shot of this messy & glossy stage of the process. After this I'll do some minor touch up highlights, matt him, add some static grass and he's officially inducted into the army.

Kyte · « **Reply #13 on:** Apr 11, 2006, 07:14:22 PM »

OOH SHINY, I LIKE SHINY! Dipped, I presume...

Nilax · « **Reply #14 on:** Apr 11, 2006, 08:24:42 PM »

He won't be shiny for long, unfortunately

He is dipped in Minwax Polyshades Antique Walnut as suggested by GAWD. For years I've used traditional techniques on all my models (Blending, Layering, Drybrushing, etc), and I must say dipping cuts out about 2/3 of the time, and yields the same quality paintjob.

What I like is that it unifies all the colors on the model by shading them in the same way...so the reds and greens look like parts of a whole rather than separate elements. I've tried that in the past with ink and paint washes but the effect isn't nearly as dramatic.

I would recommend grabbing a can of this stuff and trying a model out, no matter what your skill level at painting. It's my new Starwipe.

Borgol · « **Reply #15 on:** Apr 11, 2006, 09:23:00 PM »

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA

STOP

That is AWESOME

I love the greens and reds and how the whole thing seems to be part of the same thing (s you said). It's superb and once you get rid of the shininess it'll be even better (sorry Kyte :wink: )

A question - when you dip models how do you let them dry, do you just stand them up and let it dribble down them or what? doesn't the ink run out of any of the cracks because of how its standing? or is it too thick for that?

Nilax · « **Reply #16 on:** Apr 12, 2006, 03:18:59 AM »

^ Thanks.

As for drying, some people do it differently (I believe GAWD says he paints his dip on with a brush to control it).

I should mention I do all of this in my basement laundry room, in the washing machine's disposal sink...

I use a brush (not a good painting brush, an old timer), but first I dip that sucker, right into the can, and swirl him and bob him a bit just to be sure it's gotten into every tricky recess.

Then I turn him upright...immediately some of the thick stain will begin to ooze off the model. At this point no matter what color you've painted him he will look like brown sludge. If you want to keep clean you should use gloves or an old rag but I just let the stuff get on my hands, although admittedly it's a bit annoying, like oil, to wash off.

I then control the dripping off the model by blowing on him, forcing more and more of the excess dip to slide down the side, revealing the shaded colors beneath. After it's settled after a couple minutes of blowing/shaking, I use the brush to soak up any excess pools of stain (particularly on the base...where all this stuff is gravitating down towards) so that it looks like shadows on the model and not puddles of liquid darkness. (the brown stains on the cardboard in the pic are from my wiping my brush)

After you're done he should look the equivillent like my guy here (if you're using the same grade of stain). I let him sit for a while, say 10 minutes or so, and check back in...some of the larger pools of stain may have recollected in this time as it makes its final adjustments. I soak them up with the brush as before and then let him sit overnight before matting him, then the painting is done.

Fr0 · « **Reply #17 on:** Apr 12, 2006, 09:07:22 AM »

Wow! That's a wotta' fumpin' that cwub will do!

That's a really nice model man, excellent work! Looks way better now that he's painted, looked crumpled up before.

Nice job with the chains too man, that definetely looks dipped.

Fr0